Episode 10, asking better questions. Choose English or Chinese with the toggle at the top. Includes a readable version, videos, books, and references.第 10 集,把問題問對。用上方的切換選擇中文或英文。內容包含可閱讀的完整版、影片、書籍與參考文獻。
Nº 10第 10 集
Mentoring · a field guide帶人 · 實用指南
Asking better questions
把問題問對
"Have you tried" is an instruction with a question mark on the end, and an instruction leaves the other person nothing to disagree with. Five places these conversations go wrong, and one question that prevents each one.「你有沒有試過」是一句加了問號的指令,而面對一句指令,對方沒有東西可以反駁。這一集談這種對話最常出錯的五個地方,以及每個地方各用哪一句話擋下來。
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Your mentee sits down and starts telling you about a problem with a colleague. After about thirty seconds, you already know what they should do. So you say it. "Have you tried talking to her?" They say yes. That's a good idea, they say. They'll try it. And that's the end of the conversation.
Three weeks later, nothing has changed. You never found out what was really stopping them, so your advice fixed the wrong problem.
"Have you tried" isn't really a question. It's an instruction. It just sounds like a question. And nobody argues with an instruction.
These conversations fail in the same five ways every time. Michael Bungay Stanier trained managers for years before he wrote a book called The Coaching Habit. The book gives one question for each of the five. Seven questions, because two of the five mistakes need two questions each.
Mistake one starts with your very first question. Ask "how are you?" and you get "fine." And if you name the topic first, that becomes the topic, even when your mentee arrived with something more urgent. So the first question should be, "What's on your mind?" It just means: what are you thinking about right now. Wide enough that your mentee picks the topic. Narrow enough that they do not just make small talk.
Mistake two: your mentee names a problem, and you start solving it. The first thing people say is usually the version they worked out on the way to see you. There's almost always more they haven't said. So ask this, and it's only three words. "And what else?" Ask it two or three times, until they have nothing left.
It is the simplest of the seven, and it is the one closest to something that has been tested. Not tested in coaching. In a clinic. Researchers gave twenty family doctors one of two questions to ask their patients. The only difference was one word. Anything, or something. One group asked, "Is there anything else you want to raise today?" The other group asked, "Is there something else you want to raise today?" The "anything" version changed nothing. With the "something" version, 78 percent fewer of those worries went unsaid. Those are the worries a patient takes home and never mentions. And it didn't make the visit any longer. "Anything" makes it easy to say no. "Something" says there is more.
Ask what else a few times and you'll have several problems, not one. Mistake three is picking the one that interests you. Or your mentee keeps describing somebody else's problem. The patient who refuses to cooperate. The department that never answers emails. The colleague who is difficult. All true. And none of it is something they can change tomorrow. So the third question is, "What's the real challenge here for you?" Two words change the whole question. For you. They move the conversation away from the person who isn't here, back to the one sitting in front of you.
Mistake four is harder to notice. You know the real problem now, so you start helping, and you help with something your mentee never asked for. Two questions stop that. Ask, "What do you want?" Ask it kindly. It is not a challenge. Most people have never said it out loud, even to themselves. The answer often surprises both of you. And then ask, simply, "How can I help?" It is meant to be direct. It stops you from guessing. And it makes them ask for one specific thing, so you don't spend twenty minutes on help they never wanted.
Mistake five is the one this episode opened with. Your mentee agrees, they leave, and three weeks later nothing has changed. So before they go, ask this: "If you're saying yes to this, what are you saying no to?" In other words, what will you stop doing? In a hospital, saying yes to something new means saying no to something already on your list. If your mentee cannot say what they will stop doing, the plan will probably not happen. Better to find that out now than in three weeks. And as they leave, ask, "What was most useful for you?" It makes them say the useful part out loud. Saying it out loud is how people remember. And it tells you what to repeat next time.
Five mistakes. Seven questions. You won't use all seven, and you don't need to. If you only remember two, remember these. First, ask "and what else," more than once. Second, ask "what's the real challenge here for you?" If you ask three or four together, explain why you're asking. Say, "I'm not testing you. I don't know the answer either." Otherwise it can feel like a test. And when you do have an opinion, say it clearly. Just don't hide it inside a question.
Go back to the start. You saved thirty seconds. It cost them three weeks. So this week, one conversation with one rule. Nothing that starts with "have you tried." Every time you notice yourself about to say it, ask "and what else" instead.
你的學員坐下來,開始跟你講他和某位同事之間的問題。大概三十秒之後,你心裡就已經知道他該怎麼做了。所以你就說了:「你有沒有試過跟她談談?」他說好,他說這個方法不錯,他會試試看。這場對話就這樣結束了。
三個禮拜後,什麼都沒有改變。你始終沒有問出來,真正卡住他的是什麼,所以你的建議,解決的是錯的那個問題。
「你有沒有試過」其實不是問題。它是一句指令,只是聽起來像問題。而指令,沒有人會去反駁。
這種對話,每次出錯的方式都是同樣那五種。Michael Bungay Stanier 做了很多年的主管訓練,後來寫了一本書叫《你是來帶人,不是幫部屬做事》。針對這五個錯,書裡各給了一個問題。總共七個問題,因為五個錯裡面有兩個,各需要用到兩個問題。
第一個錯,就出在你問的第一句話。你問「最近好嗎?」,得到的就是「還好啊」。而如果話題是你先講的,那接下來談的就是那件事,就算學員手上有更急的問題也一樣。所以第一個問題,應該是:「你現在最在意的是什麼?」意思就是:你現在腦子裡在想的是什麼。夠寬,讓學員自己選要談什麼;也夠窄,不會變成閒聊。
第二個錯:學員講出一個問題,你就開始解決它。人一開始講的,通常是他在來找你的路上就先想好的說法。後面幾乎都還有沒講的。所以,問這一句,只有三個字:「還有呢?」問兩三次,問到他真的沒有東西再講為止。
這是七個裡面最簡單的一個,也是最接近「被研究過」的那一個。被研究的地方不是輔導,是診間。研究人員讓二十位家醫科醫師,各自用其中一句話去問病人。兩句只差一個詞:「任何」,還是「什麼」。一組醫師問的是:「今天還有『任何』其他想提的事嗎?」另一組問的是:「今天還有『什麼』其他想提的事嗎?」用「任何」的那一組,結果沒有改變。用「什麼」的那一組,病人「沒講出口就帶回家」的擔心,少了百分之七十八。那些擔心,病人本來會一句都不提,就這樣帶回家。而且看診時間也沒有變長。「任何」讓人很容易回答沒有。「什麼」則是在說:應該還有。
「還有呢」問個幾次,你面前就會有好幾個問題,而不是一個。第三個錯,就是你挑了自己有興趣的那一個。或者,學員一直在講別人的問題:不肯配合的病人、從來不回信的單位、很難相處的同事。都是真的。但沒有一件,是他明天就能改變的。所以第三個問題是:「對『你』來說,真正困難的是什麼?」真正改變整個問題的,是那四個字:對你來說。這四個字,把對話從那個不在現場的人身上,拉回坐在你面前的這個人身上。
第四個錯比較不容易察覺。你已經知道真正的問題了,於是你開始幫忙,而你幫的,是學員從來沒開口要的那件事。有兩個問題可以擋掉它。問他:「你想要的是什麼?」語氣要放軟,不要聽起來像在質問。大部分的人從來沒把它講出來過,連對自己也沒說過。而這個答案,常常讓你們兩個都意外。然後,簡單問一句:「我可以怎麼幫你?」這句話刻意問得很直接。它讓你不必用猜的,也讓他必須講出一件具體的事,你才不會花二十分鐘,幫一個他從來沒想要的忙。
第五個錯,就是這一集開頭那一個:學員同意了,走了,三個禮拜後什麼都沒有改變。所以在他離開之前,問一句:「如果你對這件事說好,那你等於對什麼說不?」換句話說:你會停掉哪一件事?在醫院裡,答應一件新的事,就等於推掉清單上已經有的某一件。如果他說不出要停掉哪一件事,這個計畫大概不會發生。與其三個禮拜後才發現,不如現在就知道。然後,在他要走的時候,問最後一句:「今天談下來,對你最有幫助的是哪一部分?」它讓他把有用的那一段自己講出來。講出來,人才會記得住。同時,它也告訴你,下次該重複哪一件事。
五個錯,七個問題。你不會七個都用,也不需要。如果你只記得兩個,就記這兩個。第一:問「還有呢?」,而且不只問一次。第二:問「對你來說,真正困難的是什麼?」如果你一次問了三四個,就說明一下你為什麼要問。跟他說:「我不是在考你。答案我也不知道。」不然聽起來會很像在考他。而當你真的有意見的時候,就清楚地講出來,只是不要把它藏在問句裡。
回到一開始。你省下了三十秒,他付出的是三個禮拜。所以這禮拜,就一場對話,一條規則:不要出現「你有沒有試過」。每次你發現自己快要講出這句話,就改問一句「還有呢?」。
Test yourself on this episode測驗一下這一集
A few quick questions, to help you remember this. The options are shuffled, so it is worth trying again later.幾個小問題,幫你把重點記牢。選項每次都會重新排列,之後再測一次還是有用。
Take two minutes to reflect
花兩分鐘,回顧一下
These questions are part of the lesson. Answering them helps it stick, and it shows us whether the series is working. Under two minutes, all on this page.這幾個問題也是課程的一部分。回答它們能幫你記得更牢,也讓我們知道這個系列有沒有用。不到兩分鐘,直接在這頁填就好。
An instruction with a question mark on the end
一句加了問號的指令
Your mentee brings you a problem, and thirty seconds in you already know what they should do. So you say it, with a question mark on the end. They agree, because agreeing is the only thing an instruction leaves them. Three weeks later nothing has changed, and you still do not know what was really stopping them.
學員把問題帶來,三十秒之後你就知道他該怎麼做,於是你講了,後面加一個問號。他只能點頭,因為面對一句指令,他也只剩同意這個選項。三個禮拜後什麼都沒變,而你到現在還是不知道,真正卡住他的是什麼。
There is no shame in asking.
開口問,不是丟臉的事。
The most senior person in the room can still be the one asking.房間裡最資深的那個人,一樣可以是那個發問的人。
Which one is a real question?
哪一句才是真正的問題?
Three pairs. In each one, both sentences end with a question mark, and only one of them is a question your mentee can actually answer. Pick the one you would use.
三組句子。每一組的兩句最後都有問號,但只有一句,是學員真的答得出來的問題。選出你會用的那一句。
Three pairs. Which would you ask?
三組句子,你會問哪一句?
Which one is a real question?哪一句才是真正的問題?
Five places it goes wrong, and the question for each
五個會出錯的地方,各配一個問題
The seven questions are not a script and you will not use all of them. They sit at five points in one conversation, from the opening to the moment your mentee stands up to leave. If you take only two, take the two in bold.
這七個問題不是逐字稿,你也不會全部用上。它們落在一場對話的五個位置,從開場,一直到學員起身要走的那一刻。如果只記兩個,就記粗體的那兩個。
You saved thirty seconds. It cost them three weeks.
你省下了三十秒,他付出的是三個禮拜。
A quick example一個例子
The whole sequence takes about two minutes. "What's on your mind?" Then "and what else?", twice, until they have nothing left. Then "what's the real challenge here for you?" That is four questions, and by the fourth one you are usually looking at something neither of you expected when they sat down.
整套問下來,大概只要兩分鐘。先問「你現在最在意的是什麼?」,接著問兩次「還有呢?」,問到他沒有東西再講,然後問「對你來說,真正困難的是什麼?」。四個問題,而問到第四個的時候,你們看到的,通常是一件你們兩個一開始都沒想到的事。
Say it like this可以直接這樣說
- To open"What's on your mind?" Wide enough that your mentee picks the topic.開場「你現在最在意的是什麼?」夠寬,讓學員自己挑要談什麼。 \n
- To get the rest"And what else?" Ask it two or three times, until they have nothing left.把剩下的問出來「還有呢?」問兩三次,問到他沒有東西再講。 \n
- To find the real one"What's the real challenge here for you?" The words for you stop them describing somebody else's problem.找出真正的那一個「對你來說,真正困難的是什麼?」「對你來說」讓他不能再一直講別人的問題。 \n
- To stop guessing"What do you want?" Ask it kindly. Most people have never said it out loud.不要用猜的「你想要的是什麼?」語氣放軟。大部分的人從來沒把它講出來過。 \n
- To help with the right thing"How can I help?" It makes them ask for one specific thing.幫對忙「我可以怎麼幫你?」它讓他必須講出一件具體的事。 \n
- To make the plan real"If you're saying yes to this, what are you saying no to?" If they cannot say what they will stop doing, it probably will not happen.讓計畫變成真的「如果你對這件事說好,那你等於對什麼說不?」如果他說不出要停掉什麼,那個計畫大概不會發生。 \n
- As they leave"What was most useful for you?" Saying it out loud is how people remember it.他要走的時候「今天談下來,對你最有幫助的是哪一部分?」講出來,人才會記得住。 \n
- If it starts to feel like a test"I'm not testing you. I don't know the answer either."如果聽起來像在考他「我不是在考你。答案我也不知道。」
Watch out for常見的坑
- anything that starts with "have you tried"任何以「你有沒有試過」開頭的句子
- naming the topic before your mentee does話題還沒等學員開口,你就先講了
- solving the first problem they mention他講的第一個問題,你就直接拿去解決
- asking "what's the real challenge here?" and leaving out "for you"問了「真正困難的是什麼」,卻漏掉「對你來說」
- asking four questions in a row without saying why一連問了四個問題,卻沒說明你為什麼要問
Take the seven questions with you把七個問題帶著走
One conversation this week, with one rule: nothing that starts with "have you tried." Every time you catch yourself, ask "and what else" instead. Fill this in and the note is ready on your phone.這禮拜,就一場對話,一條規則:不要出現「你有沒有試過」。每次你發現自己快講出這句話,就改問「還有呢?」。填一下,這張小抄就存在你手機裡了。
The mistake you make most often你最常犯的那一個錯
The one question you'll practise this week這禮拜你要練的那一句
Your note你的小抄
Three short talks to go deeper
三支值得一看的短講
Books and evidence
推薦書與實證
Evidence and further reading實證與參考文獻
Twenty six episodes, one relationship
二十六集,一段師徒關係
From the first meeting to the day they no longer need you. One step a week.
從第一次見面,到他不再需要你的那一天。每週一步。
Here for patients · Here for each other
為了病人,也為了彼此